Friday, June 7, 2013

40K Fridays - Building for the Long Term - Crimson Fists


The current Space Marine Battleforce, straight from the GW site
Based on what I read online, a lot of people build 40K armies for a single tournament or maybe a single edition, then sell them off and build another. That's not how I do it. Once I build and paint things I tend to get a little attached to them. Part of this is because it takes a lot of work before I'm satisfied with the look of them, and if I'm happy with it now I'll probably still be happy with it in a year or two or three. Another part is that they build up a history and sometimes take on a personality of their own. Keeping them at hand keeps me connected to that ridiculous game where every other model on the table died but my Chaplain and my friend's Eldar Avatar, so it came down to a one-on-one duel. Finally 40K is one area where I am not susceptible to the Greatness of the New - some of the new stuff is really good, but I don't have to replace my entire army with it right now.

So if you share my feelings on the subject, what are the differences in building and painting a long-term army? Here's how I do it, using my Crimson Fists (started back in 3rd edition circa 1998) as an example. I am reworking them a bit right now so it's an ongoing project.

First: The Origin - I went into the FLGS after 40k 3rd came out and found this in the discount bin


Now this was a special 2nd edition set that was pretty pricey - note that it contains more than the typical battleforce box does today, including custom shoulder pads and arm castings - but for some reason it was marked way down. Now I don't remember if the manager was uninformed or what but all of the 2E stuff was discounted like this but this was just a box of miniatures, rather edition-independent. I jumped on the opportunity and this box is still the core of my army today.

With all of the fist-symbols in the set I really wanted to use them but my Howling Griffons were already yellow and red, a little too close to the Imperial Fist color scheme, so I went with Crimson Fists, partly for inspiration from the Rogue Trader cover, and partly because I knew it would be a fairly simple scheme to paint and thus would be faster.



  • So part of going for the long term is picking an army you like. I like space marines in 40K and I knew as long as I was playing the game I would have an army of them one way or another.
  • Another consideration is to pick a paint scheme you like - you should really do this for any army, but it's worth mentioning here. If you do want to go long term with it, picking a "known" paint scheme does increase your odds of finding matching units from other players or ebay. I swore I would never use models I didn't paint myself but I've gotten comfortable with the idea since then.
  • Also I would recommend picking a "core" army. Marines, Eldar, Orks, and Chaos are the original 4 armies for the game. They are the safest choices in a lot of ways. Sometimes it takes GW a few tries to find the right flavor for an army, like Tau for example. So the thing you like about them this edition may disappear or morph beyond recognition in the next one. Even Marines aren't immune to this as there is speculation out there now that those wonderful Black Templars may be rolled back into the general Marine codex for this edition.  I wouldn't let that be the deciding factor but it is something to think about if you plan on playing the force for more than one season. One good thing: You can always play a specialized marine army as standard marines if you get tired of waiting for a new codex.
  • It also helps to decide on a theme, at least at the start. My Fists started out as an infantry gunline with bikers and Predator support. Later I decided to mechanize them and added Rhinos and a Razorback. Now they are my "everything Space Marine" army - they are decidedly non-specialized but they have a lot of options because of all the stuff I have added to them over the years. Having a theme at the beginning helps you focus in on getting a few key units bought, built, and painted and helps focus your list-building as well.
Now with any army there are some universal basics on getting started, and the primary one is "HQ + 2 Troops". You will see it everywhere because it's true. Since the introduction of the force organization system in 3rd edition it has been a good idea to follow this. Look around the web at images and tactics articles if you like but to get started you need those three pieces. For marines this usually means a Captain and two tactical squads, probably with flamer and missile launcher. Get them, build them, play a game or three with them against a friend. Make sure you like the game and the army before you commit to them. For Orks it's at least 20 Orks and a Warboss, though more is better. For Eldar it's a Farseer and some Guardians or Dire Avengers. 

The classic space marine tactical squad from the 2nd edition box. 
The Starter Sets are usually a good deal although the current one (Dark Vengeance) is much more specialized than older sets with chapter-specific markings on the included Dark Angel marines and some odd choices for the included Chaos force. This set is great if you're wanting to play Dark Angel Space Marines. If you can find the 5th edition set, Assault on Black Reach, it's much more generic with Marines and Orks that can be used for a lot of different armies.

I'm not a huge fan of the Battleforces because a lot of them don't give you a great mix of forces. A lot of them are a full squad of something, a half-squad of something else, and a single vehicle. Look carefully at what your set contains and think about how useful that's really going to be. A 5-man scout squad may be fine, especially with sniper rifles. A 5-man marine assault squad is not something you are going to use very much at any point level. Based on that picture at the top I would try to build it out as 2 tactical squads + scout squad, and save the jump packs for later.


Bench players - just because the squad comes with a flamer/missile launcher doesn't mean you always have to play them that way.
Now if you do go online you will see a lot of statements about how troop units are dead weight in some armies - ignore those for now. Troops are the core of your force and you will be taking two of them in every battle you fight. Start with two and you're covered right from the start. Remember, you have to take objectives to win in most current scenarios, so troop choices are actually more important in the current edition than they have been previously. Marines have an advantage here with the combat squad rule that lets you turn 2 tac squads into 4 scoring units - this is a good thing.

Now after fighting a couple of battles this limited force may feel a little too ... limited. Now it's time to pick up some new fun stuff:

  •  Another HQ choice is an easy addition - Librarian, chaplain, special character. You can always take two in a normal battle so having at least two to choose from is a good idea. It's only one model so you're not overloading the paint queue either. Picking a Psyker will let you explore the wonders of that sub-system and decide if it's something you want in your army. One word of warning: the psychic system changes in every new army book and in every new edition of the game so don't get too attached to any one power - get attached to the idea of blowing things up with your mind, not the actual power that does it. For Eldar players get an Avatar - they are a lot of fun.
    Rogue Trader era tactical squad, again with flamer and missile launcher
  • One easy interim acquisition is to pick up some additional heavy and special weapon troopers to swap in and out of your tac squads. Flamer not getting it done for you? Swap them out for plasma or melta guns. Missile launcher a little too normal for you? Plasma cannons are a blast (heh) and multi-meltas are a lot of fun up close. 
...and some RT subs as well. Remember, tac marines are all about flexibility
  • Add a Dreadnought and start learning the vehicle rules in general and the walker rules in particular. Dreads are a mix of infantry and vehicle and fit well with a basic infantry force. There's a lot of talk about them being less useful in 6th edition but a) we're building for the long term here and b) not every game is a 2000-point double force-org battle with a dozen lascannons on the table. In smaller battles, dreads are just as good as they ever were and that's what you will be playing for a while now. For Eldar: Wraithlords are still great - get one!
  • New squads: For most marine players it's a good idea to add another squad at this point. Maybe an assault squad, maybe a biker squad - something to take the fight to the enemy. Scouts are another troop choice but have a lot of interesting options for infiltration and outflanking. They can also be armed in a variety of ways. If you'd rather sit back and shoot a devastator squad is a solid option. Then there are the termies - everyone likes termies! You're probably going to end up wanting two - one shooty squad and one assault squad. In general it's good to aim for having at least one Elite choice, one Fast Attack choice, and one Heavy Support choice before you start concentrating on any one of them and infantry squads are a good way to do that.
  • Transports: One is not that useful, but they come in some sets so go ahead and try that out if you have one. In general though it's better to field 2 or 3 of them if you want your troops to actually get somewhere. If you already have some speedy assault troops these can wait a little bit for most armies. 
  • Other Vehicles: Another fun part of 40K, this takes a little more thought. It's tough if you pick up a tank, get it all painted up, put it out on the table, and it gets blown away on turn 1. It's always better to field two. Now they don't have to be the same vehicle - marines can field a Predator and a Vindicator and be just fine. A tank and a dreadnought is fine too. A lot of armies don't have a ton of choices but most have at least that. For Orks Killa Kans are not heavily armored but you get three of them in a box and can field them as a single unit! That's plenty for smaller games. 
Even Sergeants can be subbed. Sometimes the basic sgt with a pistol and a chainsword is fine - and sometimes you need a veteran with a combi-flamer and a power fist!
Two things to keep in mind as you expand: 
  • It's can be quite tempting to build your army around your usual opponent and it's not a terrible plan but don't let it be the only consideration. Pick up the units you think are cool and try them out. Focusing on a single opposing army can skew yours in odd areas. A marine army that only plays against Orks is going to look a certain way and may have a hard time against Eldar or Necrons. Stay flexible.
  • Take full squads. Marines have come in 10-man squads since the beginning. Stick with that. In 3rd edition you could take a 6-man tac squad and still get the special and the heavy weapon and that's how I originally built the Fists. Come next edition and that was no longer allowed and I suddenly had to rebuild the core of my force, and getting everything to come together (including scraping up some more RT beakie marines to fill out the squads) was work I didn't need. You can always take less - so make full squads! 
    • Tac and assault marines should always be built as a squad of 10. Even if you're going to put them in a Razorback build 10 - plans change, editions change. 
    • Termies are fine at 5. If you end up with 10 I would build them as two squads of 5.
    • Devastators are OK at 5 but better at 10, plus you can always split them up down the road if needed as you add some additional heavy weapons. Then you have 2 squads!
    • For bike squads I wouldn't build fewer than 5 - pricey, but a lot more flexible down the road. 
    •  In contrast, Chaos Terminators have been coming in units of 3-10 for a long time now and 3 of them is perfectly viable. 
That's all for now, more to come as I progress with the updating of the Fists!

2 comments:

Anthony Emmel said...

Excellent building advice. One day I will have my entire chapter in miniature form. :)

The only minis I think are replicated are:

My chpalin appears twice: in Terminator armor and on a bike.

My 1st two veteran Terminator squads are actually my first painted squad ever: they exist as both terminators and in Rogue Trader plastic armor. :)

Blacksteel said...

Thanks Anthony - I'm right there with you. A new squad means I have more squads rather than replacing an existing one.

It's perfectly fine to have different loadouts for the same guys - I like that veteran/terminator idea!

Another war story: When the Terminator Chaplain mini first came out I gave him lightning claws, because I could, it looked cool , and it was pretty nasty in the game. Then we went to 3rd edition and it was no longer an option Bleah.